Tuesday, March 20, 2012

comprehensive details for setting up SSE?

First, soapbox questions for someone who might have more direct pull with Microsoft (or at least knowledge of how I should work with what they've given us), then a more specific question:

Scenario: You install SQL Server Express (or any other version, it doesn't matter) and the feedback with all the little green checkmarks tells you it has installed successfully. "Oh goody," say people (like me) who are not super experienced with SQL Server, "it installed successfully; now I can jump in and start using it!" But it aint so--there are so many other hoops to jump through before it really becomes operational.

After successful installation, why can't some link become visible indicating what you have to do after that? I mean, it's fine to wade through all the questions in this forum and get answers from all you nice and informed guys, AFTER the problems start coming; but I would rather not have to associate with you, to be honest, in terms of time spent that could be going into my projects.

Why isn't there a comprehensive guide right off the bat? That is, something referenced immediately that tells you such things as: how to register a database with emphasis on the fact that just creating a database won't do the trick for your application; how to set permissions and rights; that (what was I reading in the advice of one post?) you have to register both the database and the user, blah blah; all about instances, the web.config file, etc. etc. I mean, doesn't it seem logical that by virtue of a person installing the database, come on, that this is a pretty good indication that he/she in all likelihood is new at it? As it is now, all they tell you on the SSE site is that you have to have the .NET Framework installed; and the green checkmarks indicating that you've installed it correctly (sorry for mentioning that twice).

"OK, self," I say, "I have the Framework installed and SSE installed correctly, so let's get to work." Then the trouble begins. Unless Microsoft's purpose is to keep you tech guys and book writers in business, I don't understand why they don't give more up-front guidance. Any thoughts on why they work it this way? Bueller, Bueller? Anyone, anyone?

Now, to the question that's pressing me at the moment: I've installed SSE and I'm going through a tutorial ("How Do I: Create Data-Driven Web Sites?" onhttp://www.asp.net/getstarted/default.aspx?tabid=61). Yeah, the guy makes it look really easy. He creates a database then shuts down the connection. I try to do the same things and I'm informed that I don't even have a valid connection! How SQL-Server-Express fun and easy is that? It's a real AdventureWorks, if you ask me.

OK, that's my rant; and since MS didn't think in advance and implement my idea of a link to jump off from the installation menu, I have to face the reality of learning this by putting all the pieces together myself. So, my question is, before I try to go through the video and get more frustrated, WHERE DO I GO FOR THE MOST BASIC OF ALL THE STEPS I NEED TO DO, ONE BY ONE? This is like the second "beginner" video I've tried to go through but even these don't start at the very beginning with information on how to register a new database, making the user a part of aspnetWHATEVER, what permissions to dole out, etc.

Guidance is solicited and will be most appreciated. Thanks, Bryan

Hi,

I saw this: Http:www.sswug.org/see/21350 I haven't done the registration to access this site, so I can't say it will help. (Just came across it in a search). If you do check it out, let me know if it seems worthwhile.

BTW, I could find no Microsoft webcast/vids on installing SSE. Being a free product, the support is very limited. It's also a very complex and powerful program, and maybe it should be more surprising that the install is easy for anyone! I never seem to have the 'Standard' or 'Typical' system configuration that would make for an easy install. As i recall, the install of SQL Server 2005 (Standard) went easier for me than the SSE install.

I did install SSE for use with developing ASP.Net apps - works better with the defaults, and doesn't pose risks to the full version install. BRN..

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